The
Anglo-Saxon Chronicle |
The battle at Ashingdon, 18th of October,
1016 |
King Knud of Denmark had all summer fought
against the young, new English king Edmund Ironside. The Danes were beaten in battle after
battle and soon put to flight. The last and decisive battle was at Ashingdon the 18
October 1016. (Ashingdon is situated 60 kms east of London. Saxon, who wrote in neo-Latin,
mentioned that the battle took place at Assandum. This was wrongly translated to Ashdown,
which is in the south of England and it was not until late 1900 century that the mistake
was discovered.) Several other historians have written about this battle, which lasted
longer and was more cruel than previous battles had been. The English army consisted of
three deployments. The one in the middle was in command of Eadric Streona, who had shortly
before the battle deserted from king Knud and who had restored to favour by Edmond.
Streona fled all of a sudden with his men and the English armys middle deployment
collapsed. Beforehand, the Danish armys main sign (=banner) had been defeated and
major confusion ruled. A man called Timme (or Thymme), according to Saxo, who came from
Zealand, took his lance and attached to it branches with leaves and re-assembled the
remains of the Danish army. The English fled and the war-weary kings decided after the
battle to make peace and share England between them. A lot has been written about this,
about Eadric Streona and Knuds possible participation of Edmonds death 30th
November 1016 . We may never know the truth. My interest in all of this is something else,
namely Timme Själlandsfar. He was after the battle appointed commander in the army. This
man is believed to be the first ancestor to the Danish noble family of Banner and the
Swedish noble family Banér. It cannot be proved but on the other hand it is impossible to
disregard ancient traditions. |
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Timme Själlandsfar (Thymme) and Toste Jarl
(Torstig) |
According to another ancient saga Timme
Själlandsfar was supposed to have been killed by Toste Jarl in Northumberland. (Toste
Jarl or Torstig, from now on I will write Torstig) |
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Torstig |
All I know about Torstig is that he was a
brother to the English king Harold Godwinson, who was Englands king for about 8
months in 1066. Torstig became exiled, since he tried to take control over his brother.
Torstig sought for help in Norway at king Harald Hårdråde, who disembarked in
Northumberland with an large army and took York. (Since there are two kings named Harald
fighting each other, I from now on call the English king Harold and the Norwegian kind
Harald.) Harold hurried to offer his brother (Torstig) peace and "a third of England
to rule". Torstig is supposed to have asked what king Harald would have obtained.
"Seven feet of England" was the answer. Torstig rejected the offer and the
battle at Stanford Bridge the 25 of September 1066 was a fact.. King Harald died after a
terrible battle. Harold offered Torstig peace again but Torstig rejected and died later on
that same day. New problems arose for Harold. Only three days after the victory William
the Conqueror disembarked with an army of 60.000 men near Hastings. The decisive battle
was fought the 14th of October 1066. King Harold died and William became the king of
England. |
Did Timme Själlandsfar participate in the
Norwegian army at Stanford Bridge? |
If there is something written about this, I
would be most grateful to know all there is to know. |
Is there anything written about Timme
Själlandsfar? |
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General and contemporary history |
As a rule you start with general, but I am for
the time being mostly concerned with the above written. |
I am a fan of Herman Lindqvist, Swedish history
author. I have read all of his books. Herman Lindqvist is also a collector of
encyclopaedias. This is an interest I share with him as well, even though I cannot afford
nor find the place for a collection of my own. An encyclopaedia is a very valuable
"time document". It is always the best resources used when putting together such
an piece of art. Word, picture, graphic and printing are mile stones in time. |
Contemporary books as "När Var Hur"
(Eng "When Where How") and Bra Böckers (a Swedish publishing house)
Yearbook are other types of documents, which I appreciate as well. The reason for my
interest is mainly that it helps me to remember to events when they are presented in a
chronological order. |